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Post by surfer5 on Jan 25, 2008 12:36:33 GMT -5
With the elections coming up this year (thank god), who are you rooting for? I just put up the (as of today) top 3 democrats and republicans.
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Post by debster on Jan 25, 2008 13:08:26 GMT -5
okay, where's the undecided/none you business category? i tell ya, this one really has me baffled. hillary could skip a hormone pill and push a button, obama? ya know, i just don't know about this guy. i need to research his voting record this weekend. i like john edwards, but.... romney and huckabee can bite me. they scare the shit outta me. mccain is probably gonna pull the republican nomination, but anyone who thinks that people should be able to go into any walmart to see a doctor and get their prescription? walmart? for my healthcare? you kidding me? always voted demo and don't see that changing. i still fall in the undecided category. right now. hate to say i'm leaning towards another clinton reign, but....
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Post by surfer5 on Jan 25, 2008 13:16:31 GMT -5
i think that it is very cool that we have a good chance of breaking the old white guy in the oval office monopoly this country has been in since being founded. I mean, it is almost a certain that the democratic nod will go to either obama or hillary; so either a black man or a white woman. and that is cool. i don't really have anything against hillary's politics. i just don't necessarily like HER. i didn't like her when she was first lady (and i liked bill). and i didn't really like her when she was running for senate. and i don't really like her now. and i think it cheapens the election to some extent to start riding the coattails of her husband at this point (he is on the new more than she is). i also don't like some of the smearing she is doing. i like obama. i honestly think some of their positions are similar but i just like HIM better. if his stance was in staunch contrast to mine, then i wouldn't vote for him just because i like him. or just because he's a democrat. or just because he's black. his platform matters most. but i jive with his platform and i like him on a personal level better than most of the others. although i will concede he has been playing the christ card a bit much lately. but i understand why he is doing it. people are trying to make him out to be a muslim and use 9/11 fear to hurt him. but still. seperation of church and state? anyway, i'm sure i'll vote DEM, but i'm pulling for obama. i wouldn't mind edwards either but i don't think he has much of a chance. oh, if anyone wants to see some of the issues and the candidates position on them, you can go here: www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21116732
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Post by surfer5 on Jan 25, 2008 13:17:16 GMT -5
oh, and i should have put an undecided category. my bad. i don't think i can edit it or i would put that.
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Post by sharpie marker on Jan 25, 2008 14:59:50 GMT -5
Mainstream politics are pretty much a wash, but I vote anyway. I'm registered indie, so I'll probably just wind up voting for the Dem nominee. All the Republican entries scare the shit out of me in various ways. Ron Paul and his fans are especially frightening.
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Post by surfer5 on Jan 25, 2008 15:02:25 GMT -5
ron paul is frightening in a lot of ways. one is how successful he has been in fundraising and how much of an internet grassroots campaign he has mustered. that is frightening to me for an old white republican...
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Post by debster on Jan 25, 2008 15:05:23 GMT -5
ya know, i think i like obama too, although i've only seen the face he wears in front of the cameras, sooo.... the only thing that both entices yet scares the shit out of me is his inexperience. it's enticing because i think that this country needs some "out with the old" politics right now. but it scares the shit out of me because economically this country is running scarily close to falling into oblivion. it's taken 8 years of abuse and corruption and it's going to take a lot of very unpopular decisions to get this country fiscally back on track. which means the person at the top is going to have to have the intelligence and experience to know how to get things moving in the right direction and at the same time the saavy to get the public behind him/her without making a bounce back to republican politics in 4 years and the undoing of any forward steps. i think hillary has that intelligence and i'm glad her husband is there to support her because he's proven himself in that arena after the "reagan/bush sr. plunder years". i doubt he has it in him to sit back and let her screw things up more. but the saavy? hmmmm.... my vote there would probably go to edwards. obama would be, in my mind, an "i hope so" kinda thing, on both fronts. i can just see where he may crumble under the pressure. and that's just our domestic debacle (or one of them). now foreign relations is a different matter. i think we've pretty much shot ourselves in the foot there. afterall, bush was "re-elected", for lack of a better term. that's going to take years and years and years to correct. doubt i'll see it in my lifetime. but i would like to see some strides in the right direction. i wish one of these folks screamed out to me that i will feel "proud to be american" again. isn't that hokey?
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Post by surfer5 on Jan 25, 2008 15:36:13 GMT -5
i wish for that, too. i wish for another JFK. i didn't get to experience that. but he made an impact. he made people proud. was he the best president? probably not. but people remember him. people liked him. and he was respected.
and he nailed marilyn monroe.
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